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An Interview With An Actual, Real Life Wizard (Who Made Ten Unicorns).
Monday October 30th 2006,
Filed under: interviews, brain exploders, bizarre, unicorns

 Back in the 1980s, the Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus boasted a “real life” Unicorn on its list of attractions. The “Unicorn” was actually a goat named Lancelot, but fuck it—it only had one horn, or it looked that way at least, so it was close enough for most of the paying public. The guy who… well.. MADE Lancelot, I guess, is a guy named Oberon Zell-Ravenheart (no joke), founder of the Church of All Worlds. He and his wife, Morning Glory, made ten Unicorns in the 1980s in an attempt to save the world. This is all totally for real. Seriously.

Hypocritical Ross: So where did you get the idea to create Lancelot and start the Living Unicorn Project?

Oberon Zell-Ravenheart: Well, it started off around 1975 when [my wife] Morning Glory and I got this idea to write a book on the true stories and foundations behind mythical creatures. In the process of our research over the next few years, we came upon the long-lost secret of the Unicorn—that these were actual living animals that had been produced by closely-guarded secret means that were lost and rediscovered several times throughout history. And we learned how it had been done. At that point, we said, “We could do this!” So we gave up on the book, moved to a hippie homesteading community in the mountains of NorCalifia, and began the several-year project of breeding and raising living Unicorns. Lancelot was the first, born on Spring Equinox of 1980. In all, we produced ten of them over the next six years. We named most of them after Knights of the Round Table. Some we kept as our own pets, and others we boarded out. For several years (1980-’84), we toured every Renaissance Faire in North America, and were interviewed and written up in countless newspapers, magazines, radio & TV shows, and even a few books—including the Encyclopedia Britannica. Four of them we leased to Ringling Bros.Barnum & Bailey Circus for a 4-year exhibition tour, where they were the star attraction of the Greatest Show on Earth (1985-’89). The very last one died just over a year ago, at the age of 17.

HR: Where did you discover that unicorns really existed?

 OZR: I discovered significant clues in Odell Shephard’s book, The Lore of the Unicorn, where he gave reference to single-horned cattle that were documented to have been produced by the Kafir tribes in Ethiopia. Shephard also referenced a number of what seemed to be very matter-of-fact descriptions and drawings of actual living Unicorns reported in various places by Renaissance-era explorers, including Portuguese explorer Louis Vartoman, who described a pair he saw in the private menagerie of the Sultan of Mecca. Each subsequent appearance is accompanied by a remarkable and recurrent legend, in which they are believed to re-appear on Earth at the darkest hour, and herald the dawn of a new Golden Age…which, in fact, actually occurred each time, from the Golden Age of Greece, through the birth of Confucius, to the European Renaissance. And, of course, now.

HR: Why did you decide to recreate them yourself? What’s the motivation there?

OZR: Firstly, because we realized that we could. And thus, we realized that we must, as it was time again for them to reappear, and we had been given the assignment…

HR: Can you be a little more specific there?

OZR: Well, it was a magick thing. If you’re into magick, Fate, Destiny, prophecies, etc.—which we certainly were at that time!—then something like this landing in your lap could only be seen as a Sign… an Assignment. It was a dark time in the galaxy; the “Nuclear Holocaust” clock was poised at mere minutes to Midnight. And it had been prophesied over and over through the ages that it was at just such times that the Unicorn would appear and bring Hope to a despairing world. How could we have NOT brought them back, being that we were the only people on Earth who knew how? We definitely felt the world needed a touch of magick—and hope—at that moment. And so we decided that it was up to us to do it.

HR: So with the creation of your unicorns now a good 20 years past, would you say you’ve seen any of the changes on Earth that could be attributed to it?

OZR: Well, there has certainly been a significant rise in all things magickal, and an enormous popular interest in Myth, Magick and Mysterie! Dropping real live Unicorns into the pool of the mundane world has definitely started ripples that have become waves—and hopefully will continue to grow into an enormous tsunami! Think of the Harry Potter phenomenon, the revival of interest in (and movies of) Lord of the Rings and Narnia—to say nothing of fantasy literature and films in general. I believe strongly that our returning Unicorns to the world was a harbinger of all this renaissance of classical fantasy. What we heard time after time when people encountered our Unicorns was: “If a real live Unicorn can exist, then anything is possible!” And I believe that this widespread acceptance and popularity of fantasy literature and film has now laid a solid foundation for the return of real magick and true Wizardry, which is where I continue to direct my primary energies, via my books and the Grey School of Wizardry.

HR: So unicorns appeared before the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and… the Harry Potter series?

 OZR: Well, obviously, the Harry Potter series is hardly the ultimate fulfillment of the next Renaissance! It too is but a forerunner and harbinger of things to come. But each wave builds upon those that came before, until eventually the rising tide sweeps across the entire world. Look at all the things that led to the Renaissance, but were not yet it: oceanic exploration; new inventions (telescope, compass) and discoveries in science; re-discovery of the writings of ancient Greece and Rome brought back from the Middle East by the Knights Templars and others… But I submit that there was a reason why Harry Potter had to wait ’til the late 1990s to achieve such an astounding popular reception; and why Lord of the Rings and Narnia had to wait so long to become huge hits on the wide screen. The world had to be made ready to receive them by many other smaller shifts… just as they are making the world ready to receive the next waves. And so it builds…

HR: Why does the world need Unicorns?

OZR: Ultimately, the Unicorn is a symbol of Hope—a light in the darkness to herald the coming Dawn. Hope was the last entity left in Pandora’s box after all the ills spilled out—and it is the antidote to all the rest. Without Hope, we are hopeless—in all meanings of the word. And these times have been so discouraging, so dispiriting, in so many ways! No wonder people commit suicide and acts of terrorism; without hope, why not? So I think the best question to be asking everyone is: “What do you hope—for your life, and for the world?” Me, I hope for The Awakening of Human Consciousness (”Enlightenment,” as the Buddha said), and the planetary consciousness of Gaia Herself. I hope for the utter discrediting and demise of the entire monotheistic religio-cultural paradigm, that says: “My way is the only right and true way; and all others are wrong, false, and should be eradicated.” Thus I hope for the end of millennia of oxymoronically-named “holy wars” fought in the name of Yahweh, Christ, Allah, or any other supreme omnipotent one-and-only ruler of the Universe. I hope for the values of “The Common Good” to finally become the paramount consideration in politics. I hope for sanity to come to bear upon our evaluation of national, social, and political priorities—such as combating global warming, developing non-polluting forms of energy, alternatives to timber and forest destruction, saving endangered species, ending whaling forever, universal health care… And I hope for the diversion of our advanced technologies from war to space exploration and colonization. “And they shall beat their missiles into spaceships…”

HR: What’s your take on Pegasus?

OZR: Can you be a bit more specific with your question, perhaps? Pegasus, according to myth, was a unique creature. He sprang from the severed neck of the Gorgon Medusa after Perseus beheaded her. However, similar winged horses were often depicted in art of the Black Sea region. It is believed that the “wings” were actually wing-shaped embroidered saddle blankets with which the Kurgans and later Scythians of the steppes outfitted their horses.

HR: Who do you think would win in a fight between Pegasus and a unicorn?

OZR: What an odd question! A fight? Why would they fight? Neither is a predator, and they are different species, so it certainly wouldn’t be a male dominance competition for a mate or territory. That’s like saying who would win a fight between a horse and an elk. What fight? They’d just graze peacefully next to each other.

HR: Hypothetically, though. Like if they were both enraged, or it was a cage match of some kind, who would win?

OZR: Nothing in the legends indicates that Pegasus ever fought with anyone or anything. Unicorns, on the order hand, were noted in all the stories as being ferocious fighters—particularly against lions. Ours were stunningly effective against dogs, coyotes, and even a wolf that a friend had. They would just hold their ground until the opponent came within range, and then use their horn exactly like a sword in the hands of an expert fencer.

HR: Yeah, I kinda figured that unicorns have the deadly horn, but Pegasus can fly, you know?

OZR: Well, flying can take him away from danger. Running (or in this case flying) away is always the first choice for a horse! Besides, when a horse fights in self-defense, it instinctively rears up on its hind legs, thus exposing its most vulnerable underbelly to an opponent with a sword! A lot like dragons, actually…

HR: But if it was a cage match there would be no escape! Let’s say hypothetically the top of the cage was low enough that Pegasus could fly, but not quite high enough to escape the very tip of the unicorn’s horn. Would the Pegasus have any method of counterattack, or would he just fly around the top of the cage and slowly bleed to death?

 OZR: This is about the weirdest question I have ever heard—why on Earth are you pursuing this? What’s the point? Are you trying to design a game here, or what? Are we gonna next try and determine the battle prowess of Mermaids vs. Faeries? Unicorns and Pegasus are not about battles and conflict—they are about dreams, hopes, and magick. Sweetness and light. I cannot think of any reason why Pegasus would want to fight with a Unicorn, even if they were in the same cage together. They are not natural enemies, or naturally aggressive, but peaceful grazers. Think of life on a farm. Do the horses fight with the cows, sheep or goats? Of course not! Not even if they are penned together.

HR: It’s not a matter of whether they would ever actually fight each other. It’s more just a hypothetical situation… like say, for instance, that somebody organized a Pegasus vs. Unicorn fight, and it was held in cage where neither could escape. Let’s say their owners had bred them to be very aggressive and then provoked them to fight. Now let’s also say - hypothetically - that I were to gamble on this match. Who should I put my money on?

OZR: Compare the respective sizes/weights of the animals. If they are somewhere in the same ballpark, the Unicorn would win every time, even if it’s somewhat smaller, as it has superior weaponry (though obviously, the longer the horn, the more advantage the Unicorn has). But the greater the disparity in size, the more the balance shifts unequivocally in favor of the larger animal. A taurine Unicorn would be more than a match for even a Clydesdale Pegasus! I don’t see that flight would give Pegasus much advantage in a fight–other than to fly away. After all, he would have no talons or sharp beak, like an eagle. All he would have to fight with is slashing hooves, which are of limited use in the air…and his belly would be more exposed. And Unicorns routinely fight rearing up on their hind legs. So size being equal, it’s a bit like pitting a flying kick-boxer against a swordsman.

HR: What if the unicorn was REALLY small but Pegasus was totally huge? Couldn’t Pegasus just smash the unicorn with his hoof?

OZR: Sure. Whatever.


48 Responses to “An Interview With An Actual, Real Life Wizard (Who Made Ten Unicorns).”

  1. Jen Says:

    oh my.
    in 1985 my wee little girlfriends and i went apeshit over the idea of a unicorn at the circus.
    someone’s mom bought us all tickets and piled 8 of us into a cab and took us to see the ringling bros show.
    and then i cried and cried when i realized it was just a goat.

    but, i guess it’s…nice?…to know that responsible parties weren’t just drunk carnies with too much free time and some super glue.

    thanks.

  2. someone Says:

    interesting story. you acted like a jerk at the end with pegasus thing.

  3. hm Says:

    agreed..you did act like a jerk

  4. ross Says:

    sometimes journalists have to ask tough questions.

  5. Lori Says:

    I can’t believe you never asked HOW he MADE 10 unicorns. what did he do? was it surgery?

  6. Susan Says:

    Ask him how he did it? As if that would work!
    It’s not like the doofus would admit to just
    training the horns together!!!
    I think the ASPCA put an end to his whole
    trick, didn’t it?

  7. sage Says:

    A book of magical creatures is being written with the entire step by step on how to do it yourself.
    Oberon would not comprimise the well being of any living creature. Also the interview may have been drunk. Or a teenager.

  8. Black Man Says:

    HAhahahahaa That’s Fuckin’ Awsome I Love How You Kept Going with The Unicorn Pegasus Thing Hahahhahaha Your Such a dick I Loved It Oh MAn HahahHHAHahah Fuck Yes I Am A Bit Of A Fan Now!!

  9. JeffK627 Says:

    I’ve actually met Oberon (his original name was Tim Zell, btw). He “made” his unicorns by transplanting their horn buds to the centers of their heads when they were very young. It was done under local anaesthesia so they didn’t suffer any pain. That’s it.

  10. Mike Ray Says:

    I have your book on the apprentice wizardry and love it. I also would love to see your unicorns

  11. Hypocritical Mass Says:

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  12. Mim Says:

    People with no belief are very rude for other people who belives in magick!
    Why is that?! Just because he believes in Unicorns that doesn´t mean he´s a lunitic.
    Hypocrites!!!!

  13. Rencoir Says:

    I think the point here… is not about unicorns, or magick, or oberon zell… the point is that someone thought they saw an opportunity to inspire people to hope… and hope for the right things…

    I think that is something pretty amazing. The fact that it was so long ago and we are still talking about it… makes me feel as if they actually succeeded!

    For the record: I HOPE for all of the same things… and I HOPE you all do too.

  14. Vlad Says:

    I hate to be the sceptic, but one would think that the whole “hope” ideal was rather secondary to creating an oddity (or family of) with which to make a huge bundle of cash. Believing in something wonderful like unicorns doesn’t make you a nut-job - but “making” them out of goats seriously does! What was with the unicorn/pegasus grudge match questions?! Do you get paid for being a dick?

  15. Isis Says:

    For thousands of years mankind has crossbred every living force imaginable in order to attempt to create another form of life capable of perfoming the combined abilities of both or all species united within a single lifeform. The thought behind the action has often been ego driven; based on our desires to lessen our own workloads. Oberon is unique in his desire to recreate not just a semblance but a living symbol of hope. He would not harm life as it is against the ideals of those who honor the Pagan Beliefs of “an it harm none”. If his unicorns inspire the thoughts of the creative to dream again & the feelings of healers and magickals to find hope & healing in a world so overcome with pain, despair and lack lustre, then his achievements have been great. It is a hard task if not seemingly impossible to bring together the masses in way that is peaceful and calming. To his thoughts if not his actions, I take my witches hat off to him….indeed a deep bow of respect for all he has attempted to open the eyes of the world to seeing and sensing again. Respect for earth and sky, love of life, acceptance of self & spirit. For it is these things that will bring us all back to the spiral’s centre when it is time to renew.

  16. Seraphim Says:

    Once again, the closed-mindedness of people astounds me. It seems that few of you realize that there are actually people out there that do things not for money or fame, but for those more important intangibles - HOPE, LOVE, and INSPIRATION. Oberon has no aspirations for the mundane benefits that such a project may generate. He is truly concerned with the well being of this world and ALL of it’s inhabitants.

    Furthermore, the questions regarding the battle between the animals show not only the ingnorance and cynicism of the interviewer, but the focus on violence and vulgar entertainment that has been so deeply ingrained in our society. This world could use more Oberon Zell-Ravenhearts, and far fewer idiotic interviewers and skeptics such as this one.

    Finally, I would like to thank Oberon for his significant contributions to the world, even though they go unnoticed by the masses and unappreciated by many. Thank you, Sir, for all that you do.

  17. Rings Says:

    Im about to join Oberon’s Grey School. He has shown evidence of all his proposals, including these unicorns, and why did the reporter have to keep asking about the fight? What a jackass

  18. Ross Says:

    You are all crazy people. Like… lunatics. That is all.

  19. Joshua Van Valkenberg / Aldan Lucian Baldar Says:

    Oberon Zell is my Headmaster he is a great man, and wizardry is vary much alive and well in are day. Unicorns are real and when he found the first one he bread it what else would he of done it, and if he wonted any one to know he would have sead something dont you think? and the reporter was a Jackass. oh Headmaster how is Morning Glory?

  20. Jim Says:

    Did your “Headmaster” also train you in the art of spelling?

  21. Okie Says:

    “violence and vulgar entertainment that has been so deeply ingrained in our society”

    Humans are vulgar and humans are violent. I don’t know if you know anything about the time before cars, planes, and campbell’s soup, but our very survival depended upon our ability to commit acts of violence and vulgarity. You can give that part of your heritage up if you want to, but you sure as hell aren’t taking it away from everyone, nor could you if you live by your word.

    This ‘unicorn’ is a hoax, and the ‘hope’ it represents is just as false. Also, I’m not going to say that the arcane does not exist, but it certainly doesn’t exist in the hands of people like Oberon, ‘Silver Ravenwolf,’ or similar ilk. It’s a gimmic. A falsehood cooked up to make a few bucks.

    Your responses have given me a good laugh, though.

  22. Marruth Minerva Says:

    LET THOSE WHO MAKE WAR SUFFER FROM THEIR OWN PLIGHT,
    and THOSE WHO LOVE PEACE BE SAFE FROM THEIR SIGHT.
    So Mote It Be

  23. Lark Says:

    Yes, violence was crucial to our very survival. But not strictly for entertainment. Humans hunted for food and for warmth. They didn’t pen animals and make them fight so that they could have a few good laughs.

    The word “unicorn” means specifically “one horn”. From Latin, having one horn : ūnus, one; cornū, horn. If you are familiar with the mythology of unicorns, you will know they are always described as being “goat-like”. They are as much like horses as cows are, or as goats are, for that matter. “Taurine Unicorn”, as Oberon mentioned above, references a bull with one horn. That’s hardly a traditional unicorn image. So, in a very real and scientific sense, Oberon DID breed unicorns. I admire him for that.

    If you believe the “hope” a unicorn inspires is false, then that’s your sad loss.

    And the definition of “arcane” is: secret, hidden, or known only to a few. Therefore, the arcane DOES exist. It might even be said that your science teacher knew the arcane, when we look at the correct definition… Knowledge known only to a few. And it is very much in the hands of folks like Oberon Zell Ravenheart, Silver Ravenwolf, and “similar ilk”.

    “Knowledge Is Power”. That truism is being proved on this forum day after day.

  24. diana Says:

    I can’t believe Mr. Zell-Ravenheart had the patience to continue trying to answer your inane quesions. That’s the most inspirational part of the interview.

  25. cobra Says:

    i had the good fortune to meet otter and morning glory once( i think i may have met you a couple of times joshua, if you are the person i’m thinking of). they were very cool people, otter didn’t deserve to be questioned so inanely, that part was crap.

  26. Doodee Says:

    Thanks for sharing

  27. Joshua VanValkenberg Says:

    Cobra what is your Email I think I remember you?
    Oh and all of you that question what Oberon has done and say bad and unlearned things about him and his actions just need to Call and Talk to him and if you don’t have his number I have it (Harm None But do what ye will).

  28. Joshua Van Valkenberg Says:

    Email Me at wizards_way@yahoo.com

  29. FliemeRen Says:

    I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:

  30. Obsidian Thornweaver Says:

    Perhaps Oberon’s attempts will go in vain; perhaps his ideas of hope, love, and peace are delusional; perhaps his Unicorns were not necessarily ‘natural’… Is any of that relevant? After all, it seems to me that he is one of the few left in this world that is actively moving to try and save it. So what if he fails, for so long as he made an attempt that makes him a far better person than many that any of us will ever have the honor of meeting. As far as I have seen, those that argue against Sir Zell-Ravenheart’s motives of hope and such are lacking thereof, or at least so it seems.
    Personally, I hope that Oberon’s attempts prove fruitful, perhaps not for mystical purposes (though I certainly support and practice the arts) but for the sake of humanity. Yes, humans are vulgar and rather twisted, and yes they have participated in cruel and distasteful acts for a millenia. Heh, we have even read of some such instances in the past, ranging from the Biblical Romans to Adolf Hitler. Those that make such an arguement of hate and violence being ‘human nature’ have a very valid point. However, to every coin there is another side. Is there not a part of most every human being that wishes to see others succeed? A part of us that reaches out when we see another in a lowly possition? It is my opinion that Sir Zell-Ravenheart is looking more toward the hope that we will act more upon the positive aspects of our nature than the unrealistic complete erradication of our negative.
    At any rate, I am aware that my words here will go unnoticed, as that is another unfortunate aspect of human nature; ignorance. Or, as many others that have stood in Oberon’s defense, I may well be in some way or another be attacked, slandered, or whatever. Frankly, I don’t care. So long as my thoughts are known, it doesn’t matter if they cut to pieces and criticized to oblivion. Oh, and by the way, Oberon is a brilliant auther, artist, and (it must be said) Wizard that brings a muchly needed illumination to the darkness of modern times.

    ~Obsidian Thornweaver~

  31. FliemeRen Says:

    I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well.

  32. Jersey Cat Says:

    Speaking as a wizard myself, a unicorn would get its fucking ass kicked by Pegasus. I mean, shit…Pegasus can fly. Even if the Unicorn gets a lucky shot or two, Pegasus can fly off, get its strength back, and then dive bomb the Phallic Filly back into the Age of Myth.

  33. Victoria Says:

    I rather like Zell-Ravenheart and find him to be an inspirational person. Per concerns over the unicorns, I can only say as someone who keeps dairy goats on our family’s fall farmstead, a young goat would be lucky to live his life with such a transformation. The option for most male kids goats is slaughter. I believe Oberon really cares about creatures of all kinds and have no doubt that his goats were well cared for.
    Per the complaints about the interview, I personally found the line of questioning about the Unicorn vs. Pegasus match to be highly amusing. It has a sort of Stephen Colbert quality to it, and overall Zell-Ravenheart was a good sport to finally give in and speculate on who would win.
    Having both ponies and goats, however, I’d lay odds on the Pegasus. It could fly up, turn and kick that Unicorn’s head right off, provided of course it’s aim was good.

  34. Thee Mystical Faggggot Says:

    I just pretend that my boyfriend is a unicorn as I lower my tight candle-box on to his power horn and let him start thrusting slowly until the magical fairy glitter is leaking from his wonder wand and the secret potion is getting ready to bubble and boil inside my slime cauldron and I feel like Pegasus as I bounce rapidly up and down feeling the fluttering sensation of wings as my testicles flap in the humid air of this forbidden realm of levitating ass crystals that explode inside the reflection of a musical moon beam when we both have a simultaneous orgasm that saves the world !!!!!!

  35. Is a pagan but doesn't have shitty ass fairy name Says:

    Holy shit I can’t believe you take Oberon’s shit seriously? Lot of you should whore yourselves to get his mystical ass-secret of unicorns.

    Fuck…they are goats. Not unicorns, goats. Your fucking ray of shining ass hope is a fucking goat

    You make sane ass pagans look bad

    DIAF all you Oberon fanwhores

  36. Normal Individual Says:

    ummmmm… wait. what?

    you know, it really would be cool if all of that stuff existed, but it obviously doesn’t, so… we need to get back to reality nowwwww… :D

  37. Esteban Says:

    Hypocritical Ross: You are a disrespectful bastard. All beliefs that cannot yet be proved by science are called “myth”. So what if he created these unicorn goats artificially, they are still unicorns, since the literal meaning is ‘one horned’. Yes, I certainly believe that with minor surgery and a lot of care, faith and spirit, he was successful. He is certainly a man of high moral standards, I don’t care what any body says. HR, you are so goddamned ignorant. If there is a hell, I’d certainly love to see your bones a’burning. That whole Pegasus shit, how dare you. How dare you challenge Zell-Ravenheart? Why not start fucking with those radical Islamic bastards who do suicide bombings so they will wake up surrounded by 70 virgins? Too scared? Dear Bastard Ross, You will certainly reap what you sow in due time.

    P.S. And oh, Thee Mystical Fagggot, that was hilarious!!! Would love to meet you.

  38. Pat Cuviello Says:

    Exploiting a goat by surgically making his two horns grow as one and then attempting to deceive people, for a large sum of money, by passing the goat off as a mythical unicorn creates cynicism not hope.

  39. Lara Kern Says:

    Real Cool People here.

  40. Cougar Says:

    What Oberon has accomplished in his life is more than any of the naysayers on this thread. The interviewer for this article apparently started this interview and article with preconceived ideas that prevented him from actually learning anything.

    There’s a Zen story, which I’m paraphrasing here: An academic once visited a Zen master for tea, and when the Zen master had filled his cup, he just kept pouring the tea, which overflowed the cup and went all over. “Hey, hey,” shouted the professor. “The cup’s already full. You can’t get any more tea into it!”

    “And if you want to learn what I have to teach you,” responded the Zen master, “you’re going to have to come with an empty cup.”

    Ross clearly did not come with an empty cup, which is why the interview spilled out of his cup and why he made such an ungraceful, unenlightening mess of it. If you want to learn from an important leader who has single-handedly changed the history of our culture, you have to leave the snark behind.

    Otherwise, Ross, you make a fool of yourself and show yourself to be unintelligent, unperceptive, insensitive, culturally illiterate, and lacking in grace. What a waste of electrons this interview is! Wow! Snarky people suck.

  41. Alexander Says:

    Some people just don’t get it…

  42. Uncle Fester Says:

    After reading afew of the post,
    I realized there are a lot of good points to be made.
    One is that his only reasons may not be about money.
    Yet it also could be said if it’s not about money,
    why charge people to see his unicorn or to study at his Grey School of Wizardry?

    Also on the comment of violence and survival.
    I think most of us are sheilded from this reality.
    Theres still wars that happen.
    Just as I am sure in some places still,
    one must fight just to see tommarrow.

    I myself find Wizardry a very interesting idea.
    One that finds my brain often argueing with it’s self.
    For oneside wants to beleave in real magic.
    While the rational side is still searching for the trick behind it all.

    Atleast this topic brought us a good debate,
    if nothing else….

  43. Response to normal individual Says:

    Fuck U normal individual and the like!Yes Oberons/Tims fricking unicorns
    are goats. They symbolize hope. like your moms sorry ass imitation of boobs.
    FUCK U!!!!!!!!!!! You have no respect for that which you cannot comprehend
    and these statements are not for a “goog laugh”. And as for you interviewer
    I hope you go to hell and get fucked by the devil in the ass. You interviewer
    do not get Oberons quest for peace! I am a no man and spit at the mundane race.
    All humans are is worthless shit bags! They think they are
    made in the image of god!!!! God has no form assholes! He is infinite!
    He appears in the form we make for him! Oberon and the likes and other humans
    with an ounce of intellect are worth letting live.
    I am an agent of chaos and may the devil have mercy on your fuckin souls
    cause I sure as hell won’t.

    Your nightmares will manifest and I will lock you in an eternal nightmare.
    Life will crumble around you.
    YOU WILL DIE!!!!!!!!

    And so you don’t have to ask: I am insane and proud!!!!
    ROT IN HELL

    May the lord bless those whom believe and have a pure heart!

  44. Misty not wiccan but a believer anyway Says:

    Hello, I was a Young girl when,I saw the unicorn in the circus.
    I just happened onto this site.Thought I would comment also.
    I have always believed that things are not as hard to explain as
    some will have you think. I Felt in my soul that the unicorn was
    real and still do and will forever.I felt this long before ever
    seeing one. I breed dogs. As a breeder I have learned that anything
    is possible. You can breed for any type,shape or color. So tell me
    why then are these unicorns “fake”? We in the dog world call it
    selective breeding. Also we alter our dogs to make them what we
    want. We dock tails, remove dew claws, cut their hair.And breed to
    perfect our breeds. So again I ask, What is fake about the Zell’s
    unicorn? More likely you will find more fake of yourself than the
    unicorns. Do you dye your hair, tweeze your eyebrows, change your
    clothes, or wear make-up? What is fake about you? Yes all these
    things are fake. But, Don’t they make you feel wonderful.Also I
    am a lover of the all mighty Dragon’s.

    Your friends at Eldurnari Kennel’s
    Wishes all well!!!! Misty

  45. mikeybionic Says:

    well, there are definitely more douchebags than wizards in the world. the interview and this thread prove it.

  46. fuckoffice Says:

    I want to quote your post in my blog. It can?
    And you et an account on Twitter?

  47. Alysindria Says:

    The thing is, unicorns from myth and legend are horse like creatures…on the other hand, every horned specie can be “unicorn” (one horn). Zel’s creatures are unicorns of a sort and were made by breeding and some surgery (or so I hear) and by thus, real. Were they an sign of hope and light for the world? Well, perhaps, for some people and for some not…there’s many different types of magic, some obvious, some not. Deeper magic is not something you can bottle or sell, but it is a powerful force…lighter magic is often times “flashy” at points and drew it’s force from many different sources, like common physics, medicine, chemistry sources and not only from pure magical one (think of stage magicians).
    I don’t see Zell as a threat of any kind and I believe he truly believe in what he does…is it a magic? Maybe, in some parts and sure it brings magic in people harts, as much as Harry Potter books and similar.
    For me, Harry Potter is also a “flashy” book and has very little with deeper magic. As Zel’s, I resepct HP impact on people’s acceptance of magic and unknown, but for me, there’s nothing more there. On the other hand, why ruin pleasure and faith of people who does believe in it firmly? Let people enjoy whatever brings the light in their hearts.

  48. Carolyne Ubaldo Says:

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